A Complete Guide to Renting or Buying a Skid Steer or Track Loader in

Americans love skid steers and compact track loaders. Last year, the combination of the two categories of off-highway machinery accounted for something like 120,000 units sold in . Compact track loaders specifically are the hottest selling piece of construction machinery on dealer and rental lots these days. There are more than 15 brands selling skid steers and track loaders in America today, including ASV, Bobcat, Case Construction Equipment, Caterpillar, First Green Industries, Gehl, Hyundai, JCB, John Deere, Kioti, Kubota, Liugong, Manitou, New Holland, Takeuchi, Wacker Neuson and Yanmar. New players like Develon are also teasing entry in the market in .

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The sheer amount of product is intimidating. The Bobcat brand alone offers 11 different skid steers and 11 different compact track loader models. Hundreds of different mechanical and hydraulic attachments can be fitted onto each model’s universal attachment plate — brooms, buckets, breakers, blades, backhoes and beyond. These units can be optioned out with tons of cool technology (grade control, high-flow hydraulics, telematics and automation from ride control to creep control) and loads of luxury items (cab, HVAC, digital display, heated seat, rearview camera, Bluetooth radio and beyond). When it comes to buying or renting a skid steer or track loader, the real problem is too many options.

What Should You Know?

“That’s why there’s no substitute for knowing your application and tailoring your machine to it,” says Jerry Corder, Kubota product manager, construction equipment. “Do you need a big machine? Will your lift capacity requirements allow you to get away with a smaller one? What attachments will you be using? Will you need high flow to operate them? If you are transporting from site to site, what are your truck, trailer and license limitations? What are the available financing/leasing programs from the manufacturer? What is the resale reputation of a given brand? Even down to what do you know about the dealer? We all know that not all manufacturers are the same, but likewise not all dealers are the same. Service, warranty and training support are at least as important and arguably more important than the initial sales experience.”

There’s a lot to consider, which is why we’ve created this ultimate skid steer/track loader market overview. With the help of 10 different manufacturers, we’ve compiled the most comprehensive overview of the skid steer and track loader markets for . From attachments and engines to automation and maintenance, here’s everything you’ll need to know.

Skid Steers Are on Wheels

Let’s start off with an easy one. Do you want a skid steer (wheels) or a compact track loader (tracks)? Skid steers excel in applications that will involve traveling on hard surfaces like concrete, and they have higher ground speeds. A skid steer loader weighs less than a comparably sized track loader, allowing for more flexibility in transport. They are often preferred in applications because of their high cycle times and higher ground pressure.

“Skid steers are typically used more in paved and gravel areas for materials handling, demolition and snow removal,” says Lee Padgett, product manager, Takeuchi-US. “Skid steers can definitely move more quickly across larger worksites.”

Compact Track Loaders Are on Tracks

Compact track loaders look just like skid steers, using the exact same universal attachment system). But, they are engineered with a dedicated rubber track undercarriage. Steel tracks are available, but not many manufacturers offer the option. Compact track loaders or CTLs can navigate jobsites with more flotation and less ground pressure than wheels. That means CTLs work great in muddy and wet conditions and also leave a lighter footprint on delicate surfaces (as long as you’re operating correctly).

“Landscape and construction customers may gravitate toward compact track loaders for their ability for site prep, dirt work and material movement,” explains Julie Portillo, Bobcat marketing manager. “Compact track loaders can manage heavy loads with ease and help increase operator efficiency on the job. That’s thanks to the variety of attachments on the market and the dedicated undercarriage for added traction, which is great for grading work. These units also have a lighter footprint, resulting in less compaction of turf, soil, sand and gravel. They are better suited for slopes and slippery terrain. They are also great choices where large, heavy material handling is needed — like rocks or aggregate.”

Tracks vs. Skids when It Comes to Price

The pricing for a skid steer vs. track loader is becoming less of a factor in the decision-making process.

“There’s still a little more cost associated with the initial purchase of a track machine. I also think that gap is closing,” says Lee Tice, product specialist, material handing products, with JCB. “The price of tracks are definitely coming down as track machines become more popular. That was kind of the big thing years ago. Tracks were so expensive, and wheels were cheap to replace. Now that cost is coming closer together.”

Maintenance on Skid Steers vs. Track Loaders

In terms of maintenance, a skid steer and compact track loaders require virtually the same commitment to upkeep. The only difference being tires vs. tracks. Skid steers will require checking the tire pressure and dealing with punctures. Track loaders will require checking the track tension, cleaning out the undercarriage and monitoring undercarriage components (from idlers to sprockets).

“Market use for skid steers and compact track loaders can be regionally dependent,” says Nathan Ryan, product line manager for skid steers and track loaders at Manitou and Gehl. “Here in North America, skid steers remain strong in agriculture and road work. Track loaders seem to be dominant in most other applications. I’ll note we are seeing an encroachment of compact track loaders into hard surface work.”

How Many Units Are Sold a Year?

The advantages of compact track loaders are growing on pros. Part of this trend comes from track loaders moving into markets a skid steer just can’t go. For instance, brush cutting and grade control are two emerging markets where wheels just don’t work as well. Because of all these factors, track loaders have greatly outpaced skid steers sales over the last year few years.

“Some sources state that approximately 93,000 compact track loaders were sold worldwide in , compared with 30,000 skid steers,” says Padgett. “It’s hard to say how many will be sold in due to ongoing component shortages and shipping issues. Those challenges are diminishing. I would be surprised if we didn’t see a steady increase in track loader sales in .”

Skid Steer and Track Loader Sizes and Specifications

The size and power of skid steers and track loaders can be measured in many different ways. Popular specs on these units include operating weight, rated operating capacity (ROC), lift height, auxiliary hydraulic flow, speed, max reach, breakout force, tipping load and width, height and length. Units are categorized by rated operating capacity. That is the load that the equipment can pick up and operate without flipping or nose-diving.

“When you’re talking skid steers, the most popular size classes are going to be 2,700-lbs rated operating capacity,” says Tice. “Then you get into compact track loaders. You’re going to be looking at larger machines, which are more popular now. So that 3,000 lb and up ROC class.”

Some Spec Examples

Manufacturers offer a wide range of sizes and models. Today, the Caterpillar brand offers eight models of skid steers. Cat’s smallest 226D3 skid steer has a 1,550-lb rated operating capacity, 5,849-lb operating weight, 67.1-hp (gross) diesel engine, 110.9-in. max lift height (measured at the bucket pin), travel speed of 7.6 or 11.1 mph (one- vs. two-speed option) and max auxiliary hydraulic flow ranging from 18 to 26 gpm (standard vs. high flow) at 3,336 psi. Note how auxiliary hydraulic horsepower to the attachment is rated at both gallons per minute (gpm) and pressure (psi).

On the other end of the spectrum, Cat’s big 272D3 XE skid steer loader boasts an 9,573-lb operating weight, 3,700-lb ROC, 110-hp (gross) diesel engine, 128.6-in. max lift height, max travel speeds from 7.2 to 10.3 mph (one- vs. two-speed option) and auxiliary hydraulic flow ranging from 23 gpm at 3,335 psi to 40 gpm at 4,061 (the latter being Cat’s XE hydraulic high-flow option). Why such a big diversity in size and power?

“It’s a matter of aligning a customer’s needs with the correct machine,” says Kevin Coleman, senior product application specialist at Cat.

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Radial Lift

Skid steers and compact track loaders come in two different lift arm configurations. Radial-arm loaders are especially productive in excavating, grading and digging operations. The radial version is the simpler design. As the name implies it follows a curved path as it moves up. With fewer pivot points, the radial design tended to be more durable than the vertical design. Yet, its popularity is waning with manufacturers and customers.

“Radial still has some advantages, including the best reach at the midpoint of the lift range,” says Brad Stemper, North American Case product management. “There is also a lot less linkage to have to grease and maintain on a radial. Though the market trend for the past 10 years is the vertical-lift configuration, I don’t see the radial lift going away entirely. It has distinct advantages it offers in certain applications.”

Vertical Lift

Vertical-lift designs uses two extra links, which allow the boom arms to follow an S curve pattern as it rises. That curve is much closer to the center of gravity of the machine. All lift paths are slightly different between manufacturer. Vertical lift is usually used more to place the load up high on trucks or other targets. Also, pallet work is popular with vertical-lift machines.

“The vertical-lifting pattern is the most popular. More and more manufacturers are leaning that way — though both vertical and radial have their benefits,” says Corder. “A machine with a vertical lift will have a greater rated lift capacity and a higher useful lift height. Since the loader arms stay close to the machine, rather than swinging out like they do in a radial machine, the center of gravity is always in tight to the unit. Since the bucket is always out in front rather than rotating over the cab of the machine, a vertical machine can make use of that maximum reach at height.”

Models with either design are good. “The type of lift arm really depends on the applications a user is looking to perform. Given the positive attributes and cost advantages I don’t see radials leaving the market anytime soon,” says Ryan.

Cab Environment

The operator station is the command center for controlling and operating your skid steer or compact track loader. It has become a real focus point for manufacturers over the last several years for a variety of different reasons. One being operators are harder to retain with the labor shortages. A loader can come with a simple, open-air rollover protection system called a ROPS. I can also come with an enclosed cab, noting not all cabs are created equally.

“A comfortable operator is always a more productive operator,” says Coleman. “For maximum comfort, an operator’s office should be somewhere he wants to be. It should also have a comfortable chair, a great view and an ergonomic desk layout. An enclosed cab with a one-piece, sealed and pressurized design is the first step in delivering a comfortable office. This means that the operator’s environment is sealed as a unit and does not rely on sealing by compressing gaskets and foam, as found on the two-piece cab designs offered by some other manufacturers.”

Get into the Cab

Cabs can come with a number of different entry systems, including swing-out doors, rollup doors or foldup doors. JCB even offers a one-armed boom design that allows for side cab entry. These cabs can be decked out with heat and air conditioning, Bluetooth speaker systems and a wide range of tech. LCD and touchscreen digital displays are now the control centers of the most high-tech skid steers and track loaders. Through these sophisticated control panels, operators can access maintenance vitals, automation features, security measures and a variety of languages. A backup camera can be integrated into these digital displays, with multi-camera systems just arriving on the market. Don’t forget about the seat. You could go cheap with a simple cloth sitter or maybe consider that heated air-ride option for those long, cold days in the cab.

“Do you have room in the cab for yourself and your gear?” asks Corder. “Are you able to sit comfortably in the seat, operating over varying terrain for extended periods of time? Are there other features and options that not only make the experience in the machine more enjoyable — Bluetooth connectivity for example — but also a safer place to work — like a reversing or 360-degree camera or adequate external lighting?”

Lighting for Skid Steers and Track Loaders

Proper lighting increases the safety of your skid steer/track loader operations as well as others on your worksite. Specifically, lighting options that you should discuss include interior or cabin lights, rear work lights and front work lights. Interior lights are affixed inside your cab and provide illumination for the operator. Rear work lights increase the operator’s visibility when moving in reverse and are mounted to the back of your cab. Front work lights mount to the top of your cab and the boom to provide lighting for forward movement as well as for the job at hand.

Control Choices for Skid Steers and Track Loaders

There will also be choices in controls. On skid steers and CTLs, there are three primary types of controls: electrohydraulic and pilot-hydraulic — both of which are available in two operating patterns: H and ISO — and finally mechanical controls. Each manufacturer treats controls differently and calls them different things, but each generally provides some combination of the following: joystick controls and hand and foot controls.

Pilot and EH systems each offer attractive attributes. EH systems allow operators to adjust the response rates and switch patterns, while pilot controls deliver load feedback through the pilot lines and offer simpler problem diagnosis. Kioti just entered the skid steer/track loader market in late , and the company has chosen pilot controls for its first two units (the SL750 and TL750).

“One thing is cost and serviceability,” explains Justin Moe, product manager, construction division, Kioti. “A lot of electrical issues can pop up with electric over hydraulic. You can get some neat features with it, sure, but at the end of today, the market we are playing into and the market we were satisfying with our current tractor customer want an easier servicing machine. Hydraulic pilot controls are really nice for that, but one of the other things too is performance wise you get a little lag with electric over hydraulic, which you don’t get in hydraulic pilot.”

The Pros of EH Controls

John Deere currently offers six skid steer loader models (the 316GR, 318G, 320G, 324G, 330G and 332G models) and four compact track loader models (the 317G, 325G, 331G and 333G machines).

“The full fleet of John Deere compact track loaders and small frame skid steers offer the advantage of electrohydraulic controls, which offer increased functionality to allow operators to customize machine operations based on preference,” says Emily Pagura, solutions marketing manager at John Deere. “EH controls also require less operator effort and are not as fatiguing over longer periods of operation compared to manual linkages. With fewer physical components and maintenance requirements, EH control machines provide operators with increased productivity across a variety of job applications. Adding our EH joystick performance package adds maximum versatility in that it allows the operator to choose between four-way switchable controls [ISO, H-pattern, foot controls and ISO + foot controls].”

Still an option but fading in popularity, hand and foot controls operate much like the H pattern. The drive direction is controlled by pushing the handles forward, back, left and right, but boom lift and bucket functions are controlled with foot pedals.

Attachments and Hydraulic Options for Skid Steers and Track Loaders

Skid steers and track loaders can utilize a variety of attachments — simple non-hydro mechanical implements like buckets or forks and high-flow tools like planers and brush cutters.

“John Deere offers over 100 attachments, each suited for a particular job,” explains Pagura. “When considering purchasing a new machine, customers should make sure they equip the machine to their existing attachments or for attachments they may choose to purchase in the future.”

Manufacturers of skid steers and compact track loaders have settled on the same attachment style, using a plate and two wedge pins that hold the attachments to the plate. These pins or pawls can be activated manually (operator must leave the seat) or powered (operator can perform the task from the seat).

“Here in North America, land management attachments like drum mulchers, disc mowers and flail mowers continue to gain popularity,” notes Ryan. “Another category of attachments that has benefited from technology improvements are snow removal attachments. Improved hydraulics and mechanical design changes allow for faster more efficient productivity clearing snow.”

Understanding Auxiliary Hydraulics

Each attachment is its own research project, but you can start off by matching a unit’s auxiliary hydraulics to the implement. When someone’s discussing a skid steer’s or track loader’s auxiliary hydraulic system, they are describing the pressurized hydraulic oil that is being used to power the attachment. The main specs are hydraulic pressure (psi) and flow rate (gpm), and units can come with standard- or high-flow auxiliary hydraulic options. Standard-flow skid steers and CTLs ranges between 11 and 30 gpm (3,000 to 3,500 psi), while high-flow units range between 30 and 50 gpm (4,000 to 5,000 psi). Some brands today even offer “super” or “enhanced” auxiliary hydraulics, although these are typically just powerful high-flow machines.

“Hydraulic demands for the new high production attachments are changing,” explains Stemper. “We need not only the power but also the cooling to ensure long component life. Some of our models feature load sensing because of the efficiencies that type of system offers. Case also offers hydraulics on demand so the operator can adjust the flow as the attachment is running to get maximum performance.”

In , John Deere will be launching its biggest skid steer and track loaders yet – the 334 and 335. Deere has noted that the real bulk of the engineering in the 334 and 335 went into the new, more sophisticated hydraulic system. The company’s older 332 and 333G models have open centered hydraulics which run as fast the engine rpms, but the new 334 and 335 feature a pressure compensating load sensing (PCLS) hydraulic system. The system can automatically detect how much load is needed depending on the attachment running. Not only does this provide better, more optimized attachment performance, it also allows the 334 and 335 to be more fuel efficient.

Hydraulics Trends

“Customers are consistently demanding more from their equipment, and skid steers and track loaders are no different,” says Pagura. “As these machines have become larger and more powerful, they are being used for tasks that used to require full-sized construction equipment. That trend drives growth in specialized areas such as high-debris applications that require extra guarding and protection, milling asphalt with a cold planer attachment and even bringing entire small jobsites like parking lots to grade with 2D or 3D grade control technology.”

The hydraulics on a skid steer and compact track loader are a complex, powerful, hardworking system. In fact, it’s so powerful and hardworking that the hydraulic oil (the lifeblood!) can get pretty hot, so hydraulic cooling has become an increasingly important consideration when buying or renting a loader tool carrier. Some brands and third-party manufacturers even offer external hydraulic coolers that can mount on top of a unit to aid in cooling during intense attachment operations like brush cutting and cold planing. Other brands are re-engineering units for aggressive hydraulic apps.

“Some of the key design criteria we’re chasing are things like larger line sizes and larger coolers,” explains Buck Storlie, aftermarket director at ASV and Yanmar. “If you think about 50 gpm of flow, we want to slow it down before we get into that cooler so it can go through there nice and slow and give the fan and the airflow time to exchange that heat. And then of course, large fans to speed up the airflow through that cooling system and hydraulic driven fans.”

Skid Steer and Track Loader Technology

Both skid steers and track loaders have loads of cool tech options — sophisticated digital control panels that allow for attachment and machine automation — routine tasks such as boom settings, attachment speeds, hydraulic flows, wheel speeds, ride control and return-to-dig functions. Telematics systems can be installed to track and log all machine functions, spearhead maintenance schedules and perform security measures like geofencing. Grade control can be utilized on CTLs to perform precision dirt work.

“Kubota has added a new 7-in. touchscreen inside the cab [pictured above] with keyless start,” says Corder. “The monitor relays all machine vitals and serves as the display for the new, wide angle 176-degree backup camera. We have borrowed the advanced multifunction valve from the SVL65-2, which allows for enhanced, simultaneous machine and attachment operation. The auto-downshift feature from Kubota compact excavators has been incorporated as well. This function automatically shifts from high to low range when executing a turn for a smoother ride and maximum available torque when exiting the turn. Another new feature of the SVL75-3 touchscreen is the ability to select one of three track response settings to tailor the ride to the preferences of the operator or to the needs of the site or terrain.”

Common Tech Options

Manufacturers will offer unique technologies (like Kubota’s track response modes) and then common technologies options for customers (ranging from ride control to return to dig). Here’s quick summaries of the more common tech:

A dual self-leveling system can help ensure optimum material retention and control whether loading material into a truck or handling palletized products. A dual self-leveling system uses electronic sensors to monitor the attachment position and automatically adjust the attachment position to remain level whether the operator is lifting or lowering the loader arms.

The creep control function was introduced to systematically operate the skid steer or track loader at a pace matched to the production requirements of the attachment. Whether traveling in reverse to dig a trench or forward to operate a cold planer or road saw, skid steer and track loader operators must often move at slow, controlled speeds to perform the task at hand.

Grade Control, Ride Control and Return to Dig

The terms grade control and machine control are interchangeable. Both terms mean an earthmoving machine is being controlled by technology to produce a desired grade more quickly and accurately than an operator can do. Grade control technologies vary. They may include rotating lasers, sonic tech, satellite GPS or a robotic total station. On the machine, the set up may require masts off the attachment or maybe a new monitor outside the cab. Grade control is divided into two groupings: 2D (two-dimensional) and 3D (three-dimensional). 2D grading is essentially a flat surface that can be perfectly level or tipped in either one or two of its side axis to create a slope. 3D grading builds on the basics of 2D grade elevation, then adds cross-slope calculations to achieve the third dimension.

Ride control is exactly that. The operator gets to set control functions for the ride. It is an on/off function, and there can be a variety of them. One of them is automatic ride control, where if the arm senses pressure, ride control comes on so there is a smoother ride and the volume of spilled materials is reduced. Or, it will allow a faster travel speed and increased productivity.

The return-to-dig feature uses electronics to allow an operator to automate the returning of the loader arms to the lowered position and also return the attachment (bucket) to an operator selected angle for applications such as loading material into a truck. This allows operators to focus on other aspects of the work cycle instead of managing loader functions.

Remote Control

Operator safety and comfort are the primary reasons for the use of remote-control technology on skid steers and track loaders. Think of an application like stevedoring — the loading and unloading of cargo ships — which lends itself to skid steer remote control operations. There are not a lot of these systems on the market today, noting Bobcat and Cat offer them.

Telematics

In broad terms, telematics is the communication of data about your machine. A telematics system receives data transmissions from your loader and makes the information available to you in digestible, meaningful reports. Metrics provided to you through telematics include location, operating hours, machine maintenance history and instant alerts.

The work tool positioner feature is great for any application where a repetitive attachment tilt angle is desired. Think fork operation, trenching, wheel saw cutting/trenching, etc. Using electronic sensors, the operator can select and set the desired working angle of any attachment. The attachment can then be returned to the pre-selected angle with the touch of a button.

Maintenance for Skid Steers and Track Loaders

Consider access for daily service and routine maintenance items when buying or renting a skid steer or track loader. Check the operator’s manual for the location of these items and the frequency at which they are to be serviced. Then simulate servicing those items. Daily checks and fill items, such as engine oil, should be easy to accomplish without having to reach into areas where components may be hot. Routine maintenance items, like cleaning and replacing the engine air filter or servicing the fuel filter, should be quick and simple without requiring bolts or panels to be removed.

“I think it’s important to research a machine’s dependability and uptime before making a purchase,” says Padgett. “Contractors use skid steers and track loaders in the pursuit of their livelihoods. They need machines that they can trust to be there when they need them. How difficult or simple is it to perform regular maintenance? If it’s a challenge, you’re less likely to do that maintenance at the recommended intervals.”

Flip-up or tilt-up cabs are becoming more and more popular. This allows owners, operators and mechanics to simply flip up the operator station to easily access all types of drivetrain, electrical and hydraulic componentry.

Engines and Fans

Moving to the engine compartment, diesel engines are the heart of skid steers and compact track loaders. Diesels power the hydraulic system, which is what controls a unit’s force, movement and attachment usage. These are diesel engines ranging from 20 to 130+ hp and above. New machines are now sold with clean and quiet diesels that adhere to EPA-mandated Tier 4 Final engine regulations. They are engineered with aftertreatment technologies that sport names like exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), selective catalytic reduction (SCR), diesel particulate filters (DPFs) and diesel exhaust fluid (DEF). Each manufacturer applies these and other aftertreatment technologies to various power bandwidths, depending on the emissions regulations of each country.

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Machines under 75 hp do not typically require the use of DEF. Diesels under 25 hp will not need aftertreatment at all. Today these are electronically-controlled engines, taking skid steers and CTLs to new levels of power, efficiency, automation and connection to the cloud.

To keep things cool, hydraulic reversing fans are made available either as optional or standard equipment. They serve two important rolls: minimizing the amount of material and debris that gathers in and around the engine compartment and ultimately reducing engine compartment temperatures by removing blockages and encouraging greater air flow. When the ambient air temperature is low and cooling requirements are at a minimum, the fan will call for less hydraulic flow to drive it. This in turn saves fuel compared to a fixed drive mechanical fan.

Track Loader Undercarriages

Just remember, the undercarriage on a compact track loader will require extra love. Operators should regularly clean a compact track loader’s undercarriage since its cleanliness directly impacts the wear rate. Contractors should also closely inspect rubber track undercarriages regularly. The average rubber track life is about 2,000 hours but can be as high as 5,000 if maintained well. To get the longest track life, check track tension and condition daily. Then conduct visual checks for damage and lubricate grease points. Then there’s inspecting lugs, sprocket rollers, drive wheels and other extras needed when maintaining a compact track loader.

That’s a Lot, But There’s a Lot More

Skid steers and compact track loaders have become sophisticated and powerful machines. This category of construction equipment is engineered as a chameleon. These units have the ability to quickly switch attachments and applications with its advanced hydraulic system and zero-turn maneuverability. More and more technology continues to be integrated into these compact loader tool carriers — attachment automation, remote control, battery power, telematics, backup cameras and ever onward. Even in this 6,000-word article, we’ve been unable to capture everything we’d like to tell you about skids and CTLs. Please visit compactequip.com to enjoy daily coverage of these two categories and all of their attachments.

In this side-by-side buyer’s guide we will be comparing front loader cargo bikes to longtail cargo bikes.

Front loader cargo bikes are those with a cargo box located in front of the rider. Passengers sit on benches inside this box. Younger children sit in bike seats installed on these benches. Cargo also goes inside the box, either at the passengers feet or on the benches. A front loader bike may also be called a bakfiets (pronounced: “back-feets”), box bike or long john.

Longtail cargo bikes are those with the passenger area in the back, behind the rider. On a longtail cargo bike, passengers ride on top of a deck on a padded cushion while holding onto a hand rail. Younger children sit in a bike seat installed on the deck. Cargo can be stored in bags along side the deck under the passenger’s legs.

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Summary
While riders of all ages can ride as passengers on longtail cargo bikes and front loaders, longtail cargo bikes tend to be more comfortable for older passengers or those with longer legs.

MAXIMUM PASSENGER AGE – Front loader
In our research, we were able to find no hard set maximum recommended age for passengers in the front of a box bike. Maximum weight was more of an issue – for the Urban Arrow, for example, the maximum weight in the front box is 275 lbs. / 125 kg. So technically, as long as a passenger is 275 lbs. / 125 kg. or under, they can ride in the front box.

That said, it appears that the low placement of the box can make riding in the front uncomfortable for passengers’ legs as they get older. In the pictures we encountered of tweens, teens and adults riding in the front box, the placement of the passenger’s legs looked rather cramped and uncomfortable for long periods of time. While this might not matter for infrequent trips or might not bother some riders, based off of these pictures, we feel like this would not be an ideal daily transportation option for older children and adults.

A note about minimum age: Children can safely ride from birth in a front loader with a proper seat and adapter. The minimum age that children can ride as passengers on bikes varies by state – it can be as young as “newborn in a safely secured car seat” or, in some places, “9 months old, when neck stability is strong enough to sit in a bike seat unassisted”. Front loaders excel here in that many of them have adapters that allow you to securely attach a car seat inside the box so children can ride on the bike starting at birth.

MAXIMUM PASSENGER AGE – Longtail
There is no maximum age for rear passengers on a longtail cargo bike. The only limit is the rider weight + the passenger weight. For an Xtracycle longtail cargo bike, the maximum rider weight plus passenger weight is 400 lbs total.

As for comfort, riding as a rear passenger on a longtail tends to be more comfortable and feel more natural because of the higher placement of the sitting surface. The passenger’s legs naturally fall to the side and can rest on the U-tube foot rests. For passengers, this feels very similar to how one would sit if they were riding a bike.

A note about minimum age: typically children must be 9 months or older to safely ride as a passenger on a longtail cargo bike. The minimum age that children can ride as passengers on bikes varies by state – it can be as young as “newborn in a safely secured car seat” or, in some places, “9 months old, when neck stability is strong enough to sit in a bike seat unassisted”. We are aware of no longtail cargo bike manufacturer that makes an adapter that allows a child car seat to be safely secured to the rear deck. Children must be old enough to sit in a child bike seat that is then installed on the bike. Be sure to check with your pediatrician for more information on the safest minimum age for your child to ride as a bike passenger.

Summary
Front loaders can carry 1-3 passengers; a longtail cargo bike with hand rails installed can also carry 1-3 passengers. *Please note: Some front loader manufacturers recommend no more than 3 children be carried in the front box; our numbers are based on that recommendation.

PASSENGER CAPACITY without child seats – Front loader
A front loader can carry between 1 – 3 children depending on their age, combined weight and the manufacturers recommendation for maximum passenger load. Typically, a front loader can carry more younger children. Having a child seat installed in the box or carrying older children can limit the amount of passengers that can comfortably fit in the box.

PASSENGER CAPACITY without child seats – Longtail
A longtail cargo bike set up with a hand rail can carry 1 – 3 passengers. Most families can comfortably carry 2 older children, an adult and a child or one adult on the back. The 3 passenger set-up works best with smaller children. As with front loaders, a longtail cargo bike can carry more younger children. Having a child seat installed on the deck or carrying older children can limit the number of passengers that can comfortably fit on the rear deck.

Summary
With the use of child seats, both a front loader and longtail cargo bike can carry up to 4 passenger

PASSENGER CAPACITY with child seats – Front loader
With a rear rack mounted child seat, a front loader can carry up to 3 children in the front box and one child on the rear rack. The rear bike seat is best for a child 6 years old and young OR 40 lbs. and lighter. Typically, a front loader can carry more younger children. Having a child seat installed in the box or carrying older children can limit the number of passengers that can comfortably fit in the front.

PASSENGER CAPACITY with child seats – Longtail
With a front mounted child seat, and three children on the back deck, a longtail cargo bike can carry up to 4 kids, depending on the ages and sizes of the children. A front child seat is best for children 3 years old and younger OR 33 lbs. / 15 kg. and lighter. A longtail cargo bike can carry more younger children on the rear deck. Having a child seat installed or carrying older children can limit the number of passengers that can comfortably fit on the rear deck.

Summary
Front loaders and longtails can carry around the same weight of cargo but large cargo can be obstructive in a front loader.

CARGO CAPACITY – Front loader
Front loaders can carry a wide variety of cargo, from small to extra large, in some cases even with passengers on board. The maximum weight limit on many front loaders is rather high. In the case of the Urban Arrow, the max load is 500 lbs., including the weight of the rider. Assuming the rider weighs 180 lbs., this means 320 lbs. of passenger weight and cargo can also be carried on the bike. Having an enclosed box can make it easy to simply toss cargo in the box with no need for strapping down. When it comes to larger cargo, however, the size of the box can limit what can fit inside it. For example, while a longtail can carry a kayak, this type of cargo would be much more challenging to carry in a front loader. Carrying cargo in the front of the bike can also limit the size of cargo that can be transported without obstructing the view of the rider.

CARGO CAPACITY – Longtail
Longtail cargo bikes can carry everything from small to extra large cargo, in some cases even with passengers on board: kayaks, multiple bales of pine straw, large furniture, lumber. Max weight capacity on an Xtracycle is 400 lbs., including the weight of the rider. Assuming the rider weighs 180 lbs., this means 220 lb.s of passenger weight and cargo can be carried on the rear. The Hooptie can help contain cargo on the rear deck and the U-tubes can help support the weight of cargo stored lower on the bike. Adding storage bins on the rear deck can create an open box on the rear of the bike that cargo can easily be thrown into for hauling.

Summary
Longtail cargo bikes tend to weigh less than front loaders configured to carry kids.

BIKE WEIGHT – Front loader
Most front loaders weight in excess of 100 lbs. when configured to carry kids. Many front loaders are available without the actual box; the base weight of an aluminum frame can be anywhere between 50 lbs. (for non-electric) to around 75 lbs. (with electric assist). To adapt a front loader to carry children, it would likely be over 100 lbs., depending on the bike brand and accessories added.

BIKE WEIGHT – Longtail
Most longtail cargo bikes weigh under 100 lbs. when configured to carry kids. With no accessories added, the base weight of an Xtracycle EdgeRunner steel frame Swoop is 45 lbs. When set up to carry children, the total weight of a Swoop is 80 lbs.

Summary
Longtail cargo bikes are shorter in length than standard front loaders.

LENGTH – Front loader
Box bikes vary in length but most standard box bikes are between 8′ and 8.5′ long.

LENGTH – Longtail
Longtails also vary in length but most will be shorter than a standard front loader. Xtracycles, for example, are roughly 7′ long.

Summary
The widest part of many front loaders is the front box. The widest part of many longtail cargo bikes is the handlebars.

WIDTH – Front loader
The widest part of a front loader tends to be the front box which means the width sits mostly in the front, down low. Many front loader boxes tend to be between 27″ – 30″ wide by ~30″ long. This width also stretches along the length of the box.

WIDTH – Longtail
The widest part on most longtail cargo bikes is typically the handlebars. In the case of an Xtracycle EdgeRunner, this is 26″. This means the widest part sits high and is easier to maneuver since it’s just a small, movable part on the bike. The second widest part of a longtail set up to carry kiddos is the Hooptie rails. On their widest setting, these rails are 23.5″ wide and 29.75″ long. On the narrow setting, the Hooptie rails are 20.5″ wide and 29.75″ long.

Summary
There are various steel options for longtail cargo bikes (i.e. the entire Xtracycle line up). Most front loaders are made of aluminum.

FRAME MATERIAL – Front loader
Many front loading box bikes are made of aluminum, presumably because of the material’s lighter weight. Aluminum frames have the benefit of being lighter weight and stiffer but they can be brittle and more easily damaged. Once bent or broken, aluminum frames cannot be mended. Aluminum is like glass – it breaks before it bends.

FRAME MATERIAL – Longtail
There are various options for steel longtail cargo bikes, including the entire Xtracycle line up of bikes. While slightly heavier in weight, steel frames are stronger and can absorb more vibrations, making for a smoother ride. Steel frames bend before they brake and can be mended if they bend or dent.

Summary
Electric and non-electric longtail cargo bikes tend to have a lower price point than comparable electric and non-electric front loaders.

COST – Front loader
A lower cost front loader can cost around $ = $ for the non-electric bike + $400 for the box and passenger bench. Make that an electric bike and your cost would be $ = $ for the electric bike + $400 for the box and passenger bench.

There is the option to convert a regular bike with an Argo front loader conversion kit ($) but we were unable to find good spec data for these kits (namely, the maximum passenger weight and the maximum number of passengers you can carry) so we don’t have much to share about them as a viable, lowest cost front loader option.

Finding a used front loader is another option to keep your cost low but there are a few things to consider when buying any secondhand cargo bike. Many used specialty bikes tend to be sold in large metropolitan areas (New York City, San Francisco, Philadelphia, etc.) and can be difficult to find if you live in a smaller town or more rural area. eBay and AdHuntr (a site that lets you search Craigslist posting throughout the US) are ways to find used cargo bikes for sale outside your city but possibly close enough to drive and pick up. Most bike warranties only apply to the first owner so a used bike will likely not come with a warranty. The condition of a used bike is something that should also be closely looked at since it’s impossible to know in what condition the bikes was kept. This is something a bike shop might be able to help you with prior to purchase.

COST – Longtail
A non-electric EdgeRunner Swoop set up to carry 4 years old+ kiddos (with a MagicCarpet seat cushion, Hooptie hand rail, U-tubes foot rests) starts at $2,522.00. An electric EdgeRunner Swoop set up for carrying kids in the same ways would start at $. If you order this bike through our website and have it assembled by our staff and shipped directly to you through our BBOH program, this would add $400 to your total.

Finding a used longtail cargo bike has similar pros and cons to finding a used box bike. They tend to be sold in large metropolitan areas (New York City, San Francisco, Philadelphia, etc.) and can be difficult to find if you live in a smaller town or more rural area. Most bike warranties only apply to the first owner so a used bike will likely not come with a warranty. The condition of a used bike is something that should also be closely looked at since it’s impossible to know in what condition the bike was kept.

Summary
Both front loaders and longtail cargo bikes can require placing a special order or going to a local dealer for that bike brand.

AVAILABILITY – Front loader
Front loaders are not typically available from larger retail stores or online. Most front loaders must be purchased or special ordered at a local bike shop that is affiliated with that cargo bike brand.

AVAILABILITY – Longtail
As with front loaders, longtail cargo bikes tend to not be available at larger retails stores. Most longtail cargo bikes must be purchased or special ordered at a local bike shop that is affiliated with that cargo bike brand, or ordered online. Xtracycle cargo bikes are available at our flagship store in Mill Valley, California; through certified local dealers; or for those not near a dealer, through our Big Box of Happiness home delivery program or through local assembly options.

Summary
Front loaders offer more out of the box protection or custom rain-cover canopies whereas longtail cargo bikes require additional gear or aftermarket modifications.

WEATHER PROTECTION – Front loader
Most front loaders have the option to purchase a custom built rain cover or canopy. Most of these canopies are easy to install and remove or keep installed on your bike at all times, which can be helpful if you get caught in a drizzle or flurries. The rider will still be exposed to the elements so the rider will require some kind of rain protection like rain pants and a good rain jacket. Cargo sensitive to moisture (like laptops) should be stored in water-proof storage bags just in case. As with most bikes, if a rider finds themselves caught in a down pour, their best bet for safety and comfort would be to find cover until the rain lets up a little.

WEATHER PROTECTION – Longtail
The Xtracycle team tested out a moped cover and we found that with some slight hacking, it was a wonderful fit for the rear of an Xtracycle paired with a Hooptie. You can find that article here. Other options for rear passengers on longtail cargo bikes include high quality rain gear, like Muddy Buddy rain suits. Some aspects of riding in the rain on a longtail are similar to a Front loader: the rider will still require some rain gear like rain pants and a good rain jacket; keep important gear or paperwork in water-proof bags; riders should find cover if they are caught in a real down pour.

TRANSPORT BY CAR

Summary
Longtail cargo bikes require less space length and width wise whereas front loaders require more space to store.

STORAGE – Front loader
Due to their increased length, width and weight, front loaders can be more challenging to store than longtail cargo bikes. They often require access to exterior covered storage or a garage. Sheds are an option as well but the shed would need to be long enough to accommodate the length of the bike. Since front loaders are hard to carry up stairs or fit inside elevators, storage inside can be very difficult for those not living in a single story dwelling.

STORAGE – Longtail
Longtail cargo bikes are essentially like a regular bike, just a little longer. It is very similar to storing a regular bike but requires slightly more horizontal space than a regular bike, and significantly less space than a front loader. Cargo bike owners tend to avoid storing their bike outside and exposed to the elements long term so this means having a dedicated space like a garage, shed, carport, landing space in your dwelling, or cover / enclosed dedicated storage or bike storage area in your apartment building. Longtail cargo bikes are easier to fit into elevators and while carrying one up stairs can be challenging because of their weight, it is possible.

Summary:
Longtail cargo bikes are easier to maneuver in crowded spaces and some are easier to fit in elevators and on train platforms. Most front loaders cannot be loaded onto public transit due to their length and width.

USING ON PUBLIC TRANSIT – Front loader:
Maneuvering a front loader in tight spaces can be a challenge. Most front loaders cannot be loaded onto trains or buses. It also can be challenging to fit them in elevators and up escalators to reach a train platform. The only public transit option that might accommodate a front loader is a ferry, depending on the ferry crowd and available space.

USING ON PUBLIC TRANSIT – Longtail:
Because a cargo bike is essentially just a regular bike but a little longer, maneuvering in tight spaces can present a challenge but is much easier than doing so with a front loader. The Xtracycle RFA (a midtail cargo bike) is especially great for those looking to take it on public transit since it can fit in elevators and on trains. The longer Swoop or Stoker can also fit on a train but getting them in a small station elevator isn’t always an option.

Summary:
Longtail cargo bikes feel more like riding a regular bike whereas front loaders take getting use to with their linkage steering.

LEARNING CURVE – Front loader:
Because of their linkage steering, front loaders can take more getting use to since they steer differently than a regular bike. On a regular bike, the front wheel is directly attached to the handle bars so you would want to turn the handlebars based off of what is immediately in front of you. With linkage steering, the wheel is a few feet ahead of you and under the box so you have to learn to turn the wheel based off of what is a few feet in front of your handlebars. Carrying weight in the front box will take some balance but the lower center of gravity of the box will help with balance. Front loaders are also wider and longer than regular bikes so this can take some getting use to when riding. These are all things riders can learn with practice. Before heading out on a long ride with a fully loaded cargo bike, it’s best to take the set up for a ride around the block to get a feel for how the added weight and width will effect your ride.

LEARNING CURVE – Longtail:
A longtail cargo bike rides very much like a regular bike. The main difference between a regular bike and longtail is the added length of the bike and balancing the weight on the rear deck. For those not use to carrying a lot of weight on the rear rack of a regular bike, having a lot of weight on the rear of a cargo bike can feel odd at first but it’s something you can get a handle on in a very short time. Before heading out on a long ride with a fully loaded cargo bike, it’s best to take the set up for a ride around the block to get a feel for how the added weight and width will effect your ride.

Summary:
Front loaders and longtail cargo bikes require no special maintenance and can be serviced at your local bike shop.

MAINTENANCE – Front loader*:
Mechanically, front loaders are very similar to regular bikes. Most maintenance requirements are nothing outside of regular bike maintenance. The linkage steering components can require a knowledgeable mechanic. That said, any local bike shop can repair and maintain a front loader.

MAINTENANCE – Longtail*:
Mechanically, longtail cargo bikes are essentially a regular bike – just longer – so they require no special maintenance outside of regular bike maintenance. Any local bike shop can repair and maintain a longtail cargo bike. When it comes time to replace the chain, a longtail cargo bike would require two chains to be pieced together to create a chain that is long enough. This is the only additional repair cost a longtail cargo bike would require.

*Please note that this applies to non-electric bikes. Any part of an electric bike that is mechanical (i.e. chain, chainrings, brakes, etc.) can also be serviced at a regular bike shop. When something involving the electrical system on an electric bike needs repair, this can require more specific maintenance from a bike shop certified to service the system in question. For example, if a Shimano powered e-bike needs new brake pads, a regular bike shop could service this. If a Shimano powered e-bike is having issues with the speed sensor, a bike shop certified to service Shimano bikes would be needed to service this.

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